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Cross pennant marking on Bren breech block
One of my de-ac Brens, a MK3, has a cross pennant/flag marking electro-pencilled to the top of the breech block. I take this to be an ownership or inspection mark. Would it be a Naval or maritime marking and has any-one seen it before or know it's significance? Thanks for any info.
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05-07-2016 08:04 AM
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I confess to having seen that mark about a zillion times Fleiger...... It's the UK Military proof mark!
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When was the mark used/current, please, peter?
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That cross flags (I think it is actually 2x crossed lances) has been used since pontius was a pilot! The last proof mark I ever recall seeing on L4 breech blocks were the words RSAF etched on in a square format topped with a crown
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Totally agree with Peter. The 'Standard' UK Military Proof marking. Observed by all Armourers. Peter underestimates his statement of seeing this mark a Zillion times.
It is more like Twenty Zillion times for Us! As it was part of the procedure in ANY inspection, to view Proof Marks. On any Barrel, Reciever & Bolt/ Breech Block. On
ALL in Service Small Arms. This was stated in Inspection Standards. As a 'Safety' procedure, to ensure. That High pressure Components had Been Proof Tested.
Military Proof is of a much higher standard than Civilian. In that Civy Proof generaly involves one Proof round to be fired. Military Proof, TWO rounds are fired.
One Dry (Standard Proof) & one 'Wet' (Oiled) The reason oil was used, was that it increased pressure on the pressure bearing parts, during Proofing.
Basicaly, a Proof round is one & a half times MORE Breech Pressure than a 'Standard' Round. The thinking behind this standard is: If it will withstand the pressure of a Proof round. it will easily handle any off the shelf available Ammo. Does not quite take into account an incorrectly hand reloaded private/Civilian Round situation!
But you will understand, the need for a baseline safety starting point!
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I remember clearly seeing this marking the odd time myself in Canada on breech blocks for FN...electro penciled on...
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Thought I would post a picture so people can see it.
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I remember clearly seeing this marking the odd time myself in
Canada on breech blocks for FN...electro penciled on...
This jogs something in my memory, I think I may have seen this marking in the same fashion on some barrels of issued Browning Hi Power Pistols.
- Darren
1 PL West Nova Scotia Regiment 2000-2003
1 BN Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 2003-2013
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Originally Posted by
Sentryduty
issued Browning Hi Power Pistols.
That would be correct...specially the older ones, we still had a few around slotted for the stock. Some had been filled with weld. Some not. No tangent sights though.
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I like the tangent sights.
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