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    Some pics of the fully running Panther at the museum we visited.
    Very nicely done up a tribute to one of the best tanks in WWII I was told there that the 75mm of the Panther had better penetrative powers at closer ranges than the Tiger 1's 88mm/L56.
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    It does look to have a relatively long barrel, the Panther, and perhaps that is part of the reason for it's penetrative powers.

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    According to all reports it was a formidable adversary in open country where it could take advantage of its main gun's effective range but had an unsatisfactory operational rate at least initially and very poor engine life. Guderian wrote on 5 March 1944 that the frontline reports said service life of the tank's engine had increased from 700 to 1,000km which was damning with scant praise.

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    Allot of the Panthers pressed into service for Kursk with little development they suffered breakdowns from engine fires, gearbox & driveline issues, same with the Tiger 1's mainly mechanical.

    F10 ~ long barrel slow burn gives greater velocity to the projectile I'll put this chart up from Jetz's book on Tiger 1 & Tiger II combat tactics this illustrates the Tiger II's 8.8/L71 main guns penetrative powers on various AFV's, also how their main guns fared against the Tiger II's armor.
    Jentz compiled this book over 10 years from Germanicon WWII testing records conducted under field conditions the data obtained is from these tests are truthful & factual results.

    It must have been very disconcerting to be in a head to head against a Tiger II where none of the combatant tanks could penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger II not saying a biscuit would peel off inside but there would be a good chance the crew would survive.
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    Aussie design.

    This is the only medium tank Australia designed & built in WWII and I think someone was compensating or hoping the MG bow gun would scare less endowed folk omg.
    Only an Aussie would think of making an MG mount like that it had another as the co-ax to the main gun!

    I give you "The Sentinel" medium tank proudly Australianicon.
    Of note was the rear deck it only had one small access point so to do any work on the engine would require the whole back deck off which was held by a lot of bolts and a crane had to be used !
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    Something oddly phallic...

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    Very much so I think Bob !

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